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I wrote a stub article that was flagged for speedy deletion within 60 seconds of entry. I immediately went back to put a {{hangon}} note at the top, but it was already deleted. I still have the text and I have written a more complete entry. However, before I post an expanded version of the article, I want to make sure it doesn't receive the same speedy deletion treatment. The article should survive the speedy deletion criteria for the following reasons:
- The entry was not an advertisement. The content was informational. I am in no way connected with the company.
- The entry is necessary to clear up confusion between Dropbox the storage service and Dropbox the rock band. The page for the band currently has a link to Dropbox (storage provider) but there was no article.
- The article is noteworthy, and similar storage providers such as Mozy or XDrive have pages.
Peter (talk) 19:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Alternatives To Dropbox Video
License
I updated the license label in according to the COPYING file found in the source package of DropBox. user:vuln --Preceding undated comment added 04:25, 17 April 2009 (UTC).
- I would not say that Dropbox is GNU-complient. The website says: "dropboxd is a per-user closed-source daemon process that makes sure your $HOME/Dropbox directory is properly synchronized with your other computers and our secure backend. nautilus-dropbox is a GPL'd Nautilus plugin that connects to dropboxd (via a pair of Unix domain sockets) and presents a GUI based on the information dropboxd provides." --Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.99.21.83 (talk) 14:29, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- Dropbox is licensed under GPL v3 on both client and server, as it use GPL v3 libraries.
- source code for linux client is available on website. so it shouldn't say closed source on licence info...
Limitations
On the current article it's written: "The major limitation of the Dropbox system is that only files in the Dropbox folder are backed up and synced.".... how is that a limitation? that's the way the program it's supposed to work. You have a box.. you drop files in it.. and they go into the internet... so the fact that the program does what it's supposed to do is a limitation?
85.225.146.44 (talk) 23:24, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, thats true. I've done it too and you CAN make symlinks :) The software comes with the app! whiskers75 17:23, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
History and alternatives
I really don't think we need to keep expanding that list of alternatives. There really don't need to be more than one or two examples. I'm not even sure "alternatives" should be a part of that section. For readers that are curious about alternatives to Dropbox, the link to the list of backup services is at the bottom of the page. If there are no objections, I'll remove the "alternatives" part of that section. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Anunnakki (talk o contribs) 22:12, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Security
I don't understand what "Zero-knowledge proof encryption" means. The phrase only gets 3 hits on Google and they all come from this article, which makes me think that this is just nonsense. Please explain better what this is supposed to say. -- LM 2010-01-12 --Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.173.130.126 (talk) 14:11, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
22 April 2010 Revisions
I revised a few things today, mostly the recent additions by User:218.248.46.85. Here is a general summary of the changes, and the reasoning for them where necessary:
- Changed the non-free NY Times reference regarding Freemium model + 2 GB free to Dropbox's official pricing page.
- Changed the TechnoSpot reference regarding Dropbox's competitors to an article that speaks of its competition mainly in prose.
- Moved the "Sneakernet" sentence to the Features section, and reworked the sentence.
-Cosmopolitan (talk) 00:17, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Revisions from edits on 23 April
- Removed "award-winning" from the intro, and the added citation. Both were unnecessary.
- Removed the extra citation for the free 2 GB (unnecessary)
- Rewrote the History section for grammar and according to better sources.
- Removed "Dropbox's servers have successfully stored around 1.3 million gigabytes of data." Although interesting, this figure will constantly change, and will be impossible to maintain.
-Cosmopolitan (talk) 08:29, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
26 April Revisions
- The sentence about the company's founding really doesn't need 3 citations.
- The "Financials" section is unnecessary; and not only did the "Features" section make it sound way too much like an advertisement, but all of that info is mentioned elsewhere in the article.
- Revisions to various citations.
I also want to point out a couple of things to User 218.248.46.100 (I will post this on your talk page as well, but as you are not a registered editor, I am not sure if it will reach you there) - I am confident that all your recent edits over the past few days have been well intentioned, but there are some basic guidelines you should be aware of when editing articles:
- Take a look at the Citation rules, and the Cite web template.
- Please take care to use proper grammar when writing articles.
- Please, please, please use the Show preview button before saving your edits.
-Cosmopolitan (talk) 21:51, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of the "Reception" setion
I think the "Awards" section should just be expanded and turned into a general "Criticism" section. If someone wants to get the ball rolling on that, that'd be great; otherwise, I'll start it when I get a chance. -Cosmopolitan (talk) 08:35, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
On some thought, I don't think this article really deserves an entire section to discuss its critical reception. The only reception this type of software would receive are praise, or a statement of preference toward another similar service--and both of those situations could not really be formed into the neutral discussion required by such a section. This is circumstantially evidenced by the current state of the "Reception" section. So, if there are no objections, I will shorten that section into a generalized sentence and move it into the introduction. -Cosmopolitan (talk) 01:07, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I agree with Cosmopolitan. The "Reception" section has no added value and reads like an advertisement. In addition, if some journals have been positive about dropbox then where are the references?--Bertbiker (talk) 22:10, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Blocking in China
Last removed content:
=== Blocking in China === In May 2010 Dropbox users in [[People's Republic of China|china]] were unable to access Dropbox. Later Dropbox confirmed that Dropbox had got [[Internet censorship in the People's Republic of China|blocked]] in [[People's Republic of China|china]]. However many considered this to be a proof of Dropbox's rapidly rising popularity and international user base. <ref>{{cite web | url = http://stuff.techwhack.com/8815-dropbox-4 | title = dropbox banned | publisher = techwhack | accessdate = 2010-4-15}}</ref><ref>{{cite web | url = http://www.neowin.net/news/china-blocks-dropbox-cloud-storage-service | title = dropbox blocked | publisher = neowin | accessdate = 2010-4-15}}</ref><ref>{{cite web | url = http://www.geek.com/articles/news/china-has-blocked-dropbox-20100511/ | title = dropbox blocked | publisher = geek.com | accessdate = 2010-4-15}}</ref><ref>{{cite web | url = http://shanghaiist.com/2010/05/11/another_one_bites_the_dust_file-sha.php | title = dropbox blocked | publisher = shanghaiist | accessdate = 2010-4-15}}</ref><ref>{{cite web | url = http://www.mingtiandi.com/entrepreneurship/20100511/idiot-proofing-dropbox-and-the-gfw/ | title = dropbox blocked in china | publisher = mingtiandi | accessdate = 2010-4-15}}
I realize that that this is an upsetting issue, and it's truly unfortunate that the Chinese government has decided to block Dropbox. However, this article isn't the place to discuss Chinese politics. -Cosmopolitan (talk) 08:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
I agree that this is not a place to discuss Chinese politics, but the fact that Dropbox is blocked in China is certainly an important information for those who live in China. Just as important as which operating systems can be used, and much more important than the reception section. The fact that Dropbox is blocked in China should be in the article. 219.234.148.181 (talk) 03:38, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Requested move (2010)
Votebox
Should Dropbox's feature suggestion system, votebox, be mentioned in the article?--Earboxer (talk) 21:54, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Simpler name
Referral Links
I just removed a referral link from a "example" url. Reading the history for the page it appears I'm not the first one to have to make this fix. Is there a good solution to this general problem? Worst case maybe ask Dropbox to redirect links that come from Wikipedia to their signup section just to the generic home page and remove the incentive to spam their links for the extra free space? --Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.84.180.231 (talk) 21:51, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I just made a request for referral links to be added to the blacklist: MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#www.dropbox.com/referrals. --danhash (talk) 15:24, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
References in client section
I only did some basic referencing on the new client section I added, so that there was information for those who needed it, and so it wouldn't get deleted. At some point over the next few days I'm going to change the formatting of the references to match the rest of the article, unless someone else does it first. The access date for the references was July 5, 2010 GMT+12, and it was not long after midnight, so July 4 if the reference date is going to be UTC - OtterNZ (talk) 15:19, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
To respond to Steven Walling's note, I think because of the API, it might be worth working into the prose elsewhere in the article (similar to the various usages listed in the last paragraph in the Functionality section), but a bulleted list of every single client is not necessary for the article. If the API Dropbox released causes an explosion of available clients, then such a list might warrant its own Wikipedia article, but until then, we don't need to list every client, and especially not in the main article. -Cosmopolitan (talk) 21:26, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Copyright issues
"Dropbox has reserved the right to delete or remove any file from users' accounts if it violates the DMCA." And how do they know whats in the files? They are snooping on them? --IceHunter (talk) 00:13, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Dropbox Privacy Scandal
Dropbox is making widespread, international news for allegedly lying to the public about its security procedures and policy.
http://www.boingboing.net/2011/04/21/dropboxs-new-securit.html
Miguel de Icaza noticed that Dropbox's new security terms of service allows it to decrypt your stored files for law enforcement; but Dropbox has always claimed that it did not store the keys necessary to do this. This has been used as both a selling point ("we keep your files so safe, we can't access them") and an excuse ("don't ask us for help if you lose your crypto keys, we don't store them"), but it was, apparently, a lie. De Icaza worries that a company that lies about its crypto and security policy may not be trustworthy when it comes to files containing sensitive information... -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowicide (talk o contribs) 22:53, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Old name
There is no reference to the site's old name, "DropBoks." I think it's worth pointing out in the article.72.84.139.116 (talk) 22:52, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Review Flag (Feb 6 2013)
New here, so please forgive novice mistakes. I just flagged the technology section for review because of the "And inexplicably, paid users..." part. It did not seem very neutral, and should probably be rewritten to simply explain the terms of service. Almiddeleer (talk) 05:12, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
I am working on it now, there is a lot of stuff that I don't find necessary. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Synergee (talk o contribs) 06:13, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Not a great download of initial program
I found that downloading the inital program to run drop box from my computer was very slow. What's that about? 101.51.235.63 (talk) 02:00, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
POV check needed
The Technology section has an existing issue noted and upon reading the entire article I see problems. If you read the page it is too much like a sales pitch rather than an article. Also, many sources are dropbox.com and that doesn't seem right. After reading a lot about the guidelines I thought that a POV check would not be a bad idea from some other editors. Synergee (talk) 06:31, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Suggesting Move to Dropbox (company)
I just recently found out that the article Box (service) was moved to Box (company) by User:Trevj. So i think even this page should be moved to Dropbox (company). If majority opinion is yes, then we may make a move.
How should this work?
"Dropbox supports multi-user version control, enabling several users to edit and re-post files without overwriting versions." - Unfortunately the posted "source" doesn't say anything how the multi-user problem is solved (especially what happens if several users access or change the same file). I'll remove the source. 178.197.228.116 (talk) 10:10, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Dropbox financing
(Removed talk of unrelated matter without facts.) meatclerk (talk) 19:44, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Edit review
Hi there! I recently cleaned up the section on Dropbox for Business, which was horribly wordy, redundant, and inaccurate. A good deal of the article has similar problems, but alas. Since I have a connection with the company, please feel free to review. IMHO, however, the revised text is less spammy than the original :) LFaraone 20:11, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Evenflow
Is Evenflow the parent company or a previous name? I can't seem to find any details but in a court document Evenflow is named as "dba" which supposedly means "doing buiseness as": http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/3:2009cv03824/218466/10/ MagicLizard (talk) 06:46, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Citation needed : use of Amazon's S3 storage system to store the files
This probably doesn't constitute a clear citation, however :
- Dropbox communicated it did use Amazon S3 until 13/03/2014
- it wasn't communicating about it anymore on 14/03/2014
- thanks to some wire sniffing while transfering files, it still uses Amazon Web Services :
16:59:38.006235 ec2-23-21-245-226.compute-1.amazonaws.com.https > pc.example.com.52875: . ack 572055838 win 202
Requested move 4 June 2015
Edits relating to client-side encryption
[2] and [3] added verbage to this article stating [...] without client side encryption, user's information is left unsecured because it remains easily accessible to unauthorized persons.. That's a PoV statement; moreso, one can't really make blanket generalisations about such a practice being "secure" or "insecure" -- information security is incredibly context-dependent. The first edit also stated Dropbox does not allow users to create their own private keys, contradicted by its own source which states While Dropbox does not provide for client-side encryption users are free to add their own.. In addition, citing a Wikipedia article as a source (and an article which was quickly modified by the author) seems poor. These statements are my own and opinions expressed therein are not necessarily those of my employer. LFaraone 02:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Dropbox Malpractice
I would like to start a discussion and review of an alarming trend showing Dropbox routinely helping themselves to between 75 and 1500 U$D from small business user accounts credit cards. The process is entirely unauthorized....the purchase of unwanted and unrequired upgrades. My company was targeted 3 days ago by Dropbox who took 750 U$D. What reeks all the more of fraud and malpractice, is the anonymous unaccountability of Dropbox who hide behind unanswered voicemails and ignored email messages. This is wholesale theft and there are many, many companies out there who have been robbed.
69.80.48.253 (talk) 21:25, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Privacy issues
While I found most of the subsection fine, I am not sure that the following apologetics are appropriate there. Some are uncited, and others appear to be advertizements, or have been demonstrated to likely be false claims. It's possible that part of the paragraph would be appropriate in another section about the available features offered by Dropbox (like two-step authentication). If it is intended as a refutation, it should be better cited and may best be placed at the top or bottom of the subsection, reworded. The paragraph follows:
Thanks, 76.10.128.192 (talk) 04:32, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Offices
Hi @HaeB: I'd like to discuss the Offices section. You didn't explain much in your edit summary other than "of course ... it's relevant" and your statement about "covered in independent RS" is also untrue, since parts of the section rely on old Dropbox terms of service and privacy policies. Here's my thinking: The section doesn't describe why that information is important. The lead states the company is headquartered in San Francisco, and that information is relevant in terms of what jurisdiction and country a cloud storage service is under. However, the specific information ("Suite 400", "fourth floor ... 85,600 square feet") doesn't seem to serve any reason for actually being there. It becomes a sort of trivia. The fact that Dropbox expanded its operation could possibly be retained and reworded, but still doesn't actually explain much about the importance of featuring the info in the article. Thoughts? LocalNet (talk) 07:54, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
@LocalNet and HaeB: For what its worth, Dropbox moved to 333 & 343 Brannan St in Q2 2016. I've amended the section accordingly, and will try and see if I can get some photos. LFaraone 03:07, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
History section
Hi everybody! As my recent edit shows, I thought it would be an improvement for the History section to be written as a prose rather than as a list. This is similar to how I see most History sections being done on Wikipedia. And my first question is, are you satisfied with that? I am, hehe :) Second, if the information is too much for one section, I would like to create a new, main page for the history. I realize that a Timeline of Dropbox page exists, which, coincidentally, has been nominated for deletion, but that information is made into a list in a table. I'd like one to be written as a text, which (in my personal opinion) is better. Furthermore, the history of Dropbox is obviously not done, and there will come a time when the section *is* too long. A new, main page can cover all the details, while the History section in the main article can summarize and cover the most important aspects. Thoughts? :) LocalNet (talk) 21:53, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
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